AJ - in the birth certificates were there not any other clues, places, names? .. you have Horace as the ggfather not no name for your grandfather?? did you not know that? The more you list the better that someone might have the connection. I found on the 1900 census - digging around for any Birge. There is a nephew - Charles Birge born Aug 1885 as you have listed the birthdate of your grandfather. The 2nd thing is that Charles was living with George Smith and family in Manhatten. The Smith matches the mother Jane or Jennie Smith that was married to Horace. Also, there was a neice Emma Birge born Dec 1892 living with George Smith .. so this matches with Emma as you have mentioned. This looks like the parents might have past away before 1900. The closest Horace that I have is one born in 1852 in Oneida Co., NY .. not sure about him.. and don't have anything else on him. His brother George ended up dying in NYC and maybe this Horace was with him.. but that is just specilation. I checked for Horace Birge and variations of the last name in the census's but nothing so far close.
I am sorry for not getting back to you.I haven't beenresearching for quite awhile now. My father's father was Charles Richard Birge, the Charles you have above, and his sister Emma.I have also found this record of the 2 of them.I am trying to go backwards and find family from Horace and before.Somewhere in my virtual travels, I came upon some mention of Birge being a translation for Shepherd.Since they are both in my gg name, I kind of bounced the idea around that the names may have been changed at some point.I, of course do not know this as a certainty, but it interested me enough to note it.Places for births for both Horace and Jane or Jennie are listed on Charles's birth certificate as being NY.It hasn't seemed to help any, at least up to now; as I mentioned, I haven't been researching for the last 2 or 3 years.I have literally just begun again, so maybe I will have more success after the long absence. Thanks for your post.Hope the rest of your summer is good. Arnie