I cannot help with information on Bertha's husband whom I assume to be the first Richard. The first Richard may already be on the family tree that I and many cousins have been working on for over 12 years. I have become the family compiler. The tree cane be observed at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/i/r/Lester-A-Birtwhistle/http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/i/r/Lester-A-Birtwhistle/ This tree is not up to date because of the large size of the file and due to the fact that it is continually worked on. There are now over 9500 people on the tree located in 4 continents. How far back have you traced the information and in what countries. Does your husband and his similar named ancesters use a middle name? I have quite a few Richards on the tree that appear to be in the time period when Richard may have been born. Do you know the relationship of Edward Atherton to Richard? Maybe I can help. My direct e-mail address is firstname.lastname@example.org. I am from the "h" branch of the family.