Oh yes, forgot the other point. Benjamin Kinsall is my ggg-grandfather. He was married to ELIZA NEVITT of Ky, in 1829, in White County, IL. Never heard of Elizabeth Langford. There is a body of Kinsall researchers, and his marriage partner's name has never been in dispute. We are researching the Nevitts in KY at the current time and have a partial generation.