Lisa, How wonderful to hear from you!Someone "on site". ;)
Frances Blagrave is my great-greatgrandmother... she is also Barbara's great-greatgrandmother (see post before mine on this thread)...Barbara & I share the same greatgrandparents, Robert & Susie Ellis.
I have quite a bit of information on Frances, her marriage to Charles J. Ellis, and their two sons.Her oldest son is my greatgrandfather.
Frances seems to be surrounded in a bit of mystery.I want to say that someone (my aunt?) has told me there was a scandal and Frances had to leave her parents.... maybe even use a different name?Or maybe it was her mother that was involved in scandal?
Frances' parentage is the big question, so we've been looking for a record of her birth, and we've been told it was somewhere in Indiana.Barbara's husband, Carl, has found an Arthur Blagrave (along with a long ancestry back to England) that COULD be Frances' father, but we have yet to prove that.
So, we're really looking for proof of Frances' birth & parentage.
What follows is all the information I have.It's long... I hope doesn't get cut off in this little window!
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas
Descendants of Frances A. BLAGRAVE
Frances A. BLAGRAVE, daughter of Arthur L. BLAGRAVE and Cassandra,
was >>>>>born on Jun 13, 1850 in Ireland, Dubois, Indiana<<<<<, died on Apr
4, 1918 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois at age 67, and was buried on
Apr 8, 1918 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois (Mt. Greenwood Cemetery,
Worth, IL60655). The cause of her death was organic heart
history / nephritis contributary cause. -------I have her death certificate.It says:
>>>>>Her father is listed as Arthur Bla_____... to me it doesn't really look like
'grave'....... it looks more like 'zeasr' or 'zeasor'.... you know how it is trying
to read old-time handwriting.I am sure it is a 'z' and not a 'g'.And of course
her name is listed as 'Frances A. Ellis'.
The death certificate says Arthur was born in America, and lists 'unknown' as
her mother's maiden name and birthplace.hmmm...?Like, not even a first
name is listed!(I also note that he misspelled unknown:'unkown' so maybe
we should not place too much significance on the way he wrote Arthur's
Birth Notes: >>>>>Family lore says she was born in Ireland, Indiana;
however, there is no such town or county.There IS a town called
Holland in Dubois Co., Indiana (Cass Twp.).Possible error in
transcription?Frances' death certificate says she was born in
Indiana, per her son's witness.<<<<<
Death Notes: Described as female, white, widow.Died at home.Her
son, Robert, was informant on her death certificate.
General Notes: My grandmother, Laura, said her two grandmothers,
>>>>>Frances Blagrave and Lavina Dinwiddie were born within 100 miles of
each other in Indiana.And my records say Lavina was born in Clinton, Vermillion, Indiana.<<<<<
Frances was taken to Mt. Greenwood cemetery in a funeral streetcar.
>>>>>PARENTAGE OF FRANCES IS STILL UNPROVEN JUNE, 2004:
proposed father:Arthur L. Blagrave, b 1800, Tennessee
proposed mother:Cassandra, b 1812, Kentucky
proposed siblings:Louisiana b 1839, America b 1844, Abigaile b 1847
(right this minute I can't put my finger on the source for this proposition...
either one of my cousins on that side or someone on a GenForum)<<<<<
Research Notes: Listed as mother on Robert Arthur's death certificate.
*Frances worked as a housewife in 1880.
*Frances resided at 1506 E. 76 Place (9th Ward) at the time of her
death on Apr 4, 1918 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois.
*Frances worked as a housewife at the time of her death on Apr 4,
1918 in Chicago, Illinois.
>>>>>Frances married Charles Joseph ELLIS on Jan 23, 1868 in Louisville,
Jefferson, Kentucky.<<<<< Charles was born in Jun 1843 in England, died on
May 9, 1906 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois at age 62, and was buried in Chicago,
Cook, Illinois (Mt. Greenwood Cemetery, Worth, IL60655). The cause of his
death was Chronic nephritis accompanied by fatty heart and liver
associated with chronic alcoholism. They had two children: Robert
Arthur and Charles E..-----------I have Charles' death certificate.
Marriage Notes: Married by Richard Talbot.Witnessed by Thomas
Firth and Ellen Firth.Date of license:January 22, 1868.
-----------I have a copy of the page from the marriage license roll in Ky.
Death Notes: Died at 11:30 a.m. at St. Barnard Hospital.Described
as male, white, married.
General Notes: My grandmother, Laura, said her two grandfathers, Charles Ellis
and Richard Jones were born within 100 miles of each other in England and
Wales, respectively. Charles served in Grand Army Republic Illinois
in the Civil War.He died in 1906 and is buried in Mt. Greenwood
Cemetary near Laura's husband & son.
Joseph Ellis enlisted in the union army in 1861 as a private in "D"
company of the 10th regiment of the Illinois volunteers.Was
discharged in 1865.(SJ)
Have 1880-IL-Cook-Chicago pg 267A census data image (6/20/04).
Research Notes: Listed as father on Robert Arthur's death certificate.
*He immigrated in 1845.
*Charles served in the Grand Army of the Republic during the Civil
War from 1861 to 1865.
*>>>>>In 1870, he resided in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky. (CENSUS, but
right this minute I can't tell you if Frances was listed with him...
she should've been since they were married in 1868 in KY.)<<<<<
*Charles worked as a foundry man in 1880 in Chicago, Illinois.
*In 1880, Charles resided in Chicago, Cook, Illinois. (CENSUS)
*Charles worked as a molder in 1900 in Chicago, Illinois.(CENSUS)
*Charles worked as a foundryman at the time of his death on May 9,
1906 in Chicago, Illinois.
*He resided at 7636 Washington Ave. at the time of his death on
May 9, 1906 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois.
Robert Arthur ELLIS was born on Nov 21, 1874 in Chicago, Cook,
Illinois, died on Jan 21, 1945 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois at
age 70, and was buried on Jan 25, 1945 in Evergreen Park, Cook,
Illinois (Evergreen Park Cemetery). The cause of his death was
pneumonia. -------I have this death certificate.
Charles E. ELLIS was born in Nov 1877 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois
and died on Mar 17, 1920 at age 42.
*Charles worked as a molder in 1900 in Chicago, Illinois.
*Charles resided at lived with parents in 1900 in Chicago,