Hi Norma, you have missread my post as have others, I did not say you needed ftm to get onto Gen Forum.You do need it to read a file i may send you and if my version is newer than yours then you are out of luck.. I have 7 versions since i first bought the ftm in 1995 or 96. i can not read my old flopies that i saved some of them on unless i install the newer version on top of it . then it becomes the newer version. in other words your flopies have to be installed on a version and then you install the newer version on top of it. if you send something to me on a newer version i cant read it. you own 1 version 10. i own 7 differentversions but i cant read it.the tree is the same as all of them except for the add ons. rather than trying to gain new customers they are trying to milk more out of us,the ones who got them to where they are.