Some extra information on my messaage... My grandfather went by the name Joe or Joseph though on my mothers birth certificate he is listed as Johannes. He had 3 siblings. Lois, Alma, Irene and then himself. HIS grand parents were listed as born in the Netherlands in the 1930 Census Michigan, Ottowa, Holland 7B Dist #19.His father and brother were also listed as firemen for the city in the employment field. His wifes name is listed as Rena.If anyone can help would appreciate it. Thank you!