I am still faithful to the conclusion of the Broket Archive. I am glad you enjoyed our discussion thread from 2 years ago. That was right at the time when the new story was getting worked out and we went through several steps before it settled down again. We are having a similar discussion about the immigrant roots of my father-in-law's Ross line. Youknow ultimately where they come from, but some of the transitional details are difficult to pin down. I will have to get in touch with some brocketts I know of that are from john and see what they have learned from the DNA. Good Hunting, Mike Fleming.