Unfortunately, a lot of the Bryan and Bryant information is compiled with speculations and guesswork that are not always identified as such and are instead submitted as accepted facts when they are not so accepted.A typical example is found at
[I have copied the following from that site}:
Early Land Acquisition in Orange County, VA
Disposition of Land from Orange County, Virginia Records:
Pages 280-283. Indenture 6 March 1746 between William Bryan of St. Thomas Parish, Orange County, Planter and Philip Bush of same.. witnesseth.. whereas William Bryan for ?20.. deeds of lease and release.. sold 100 acres in St. Thomas Parish.. beginning.. Philip Bush.. John Lucas.. John Taylor.. Capt. John Taylor.. (signed) William (X) Bryan. Witnesses: Zach. Taylor, Robt. (X) Sharman, James Brown. Recorded Orange County 26 March 1746. [Orange County Virginia Deed Book 10, Dorman, pg. 57].
? Early Land Acquisition in Augusta County, VA
Acquisition of Land from Chalkley's:
Page 153.--14th February, 1748. Wm. Bewes (Bews) to Wm. Bryan. Delivered: Ro. Breckinridge, May, 1765. On Goose Creek. Corner Joseph Love.
Disposition of Land from Chalkley's:
Page 313.--11th October, 1765. William Bryan, Sr., to William Bryan, Jr., son of William, Sr., £5.5, 133 acres on Roanoke River adjoining Joseph Love. Delivered: Thos. Madison, January, 1771.
Page 271.--14th March, 1768. William Bryan to James Bryan, £100, 267 acres on Roanoke, alias Goose Creek; corner William Bryans, Jr., James Burk's line. Teste: William Ingles, William Tutt, Samuel Woods, William Preston. Delivered: Mr. Samuel Lewis, 16th January, 1772.
? Records of William Bryan in Orange County, VA
Love vs. Bryant - Edward Love vs. William Bryant. For debt of 285 pounds of tobacco. 27 Oct. 1733. Account of Edwd. Love to Mr. Wm. Bryant, 27 Oct. 1733. [Orange County, VA Judgements, 1735, pg. 64]
Petition of Thomas Calloway that the road which goeth to the county line of Hanover is become altogether useless in the upper part by reason of another road which leads to George Holmes' quarter close upon the county line. He asks that the upper part of said road, known by the name of Franklyn's Road may be cleared by a continual course up to James River Mountains. Asks that Edward Franklyn, William Bryan, Phillip Bush, Laurence Franklyn and his son Benjamin, William Land, John and Alexander Cleveland, John Bryson and the make tithables on Col. Todd's quarter on the Blew Run, together with all that shall hereafter settle within the precincts, by appointed to clear the road. Also signed by William Callaway and Francies Callaway. [Orange County Judgements, 1735, pg. 73]
Petition of Denis Bryne that in November last the Court gave an order for clearing a road from the piny mountain run up to the ridge above Lynch's Quarter and nominated William Bryan surveyor of same and the petitioner to assist in clearing. Petitioner being a schoolmaster begs judgement whether the surveyor can lawfully compel him to assist in clearing the road. [Orange County Judgements, 1735, pg. 74]
Grand Jury sworn, 18 Nov. 1735: Robert Cave, foreman, Abra. Bledsoe, Francis Browning, Wm. Bryant, Wm. Pannil, Edward Franklin, Phillip Bush, Anthony Head, Wm. Kelley, Henry Downs, Jno. Bransford, David Phillips, John Howard, Geo. Anderson, Mark Finks, Wm. Carpenter, George Woods. [Orange County Judgements, 1736, pg. 71]
? Records of William Bryan in Augusta County, VA
From Chalkley's Augusta County Records:
Vol. 1 - ORIGINAL PETITIONS AND PAPERS FILED IN THE COUNTY COURT. - 1750 - Petition, 1752, of inhabitants from Forks of Roanoke to James Neiley's Majority have to travel 25 to 30 miles to work on ye road from Reed Creek to Warwick. Petition to have road laid off into precincts. William Bryan, John Bryan, James Bryan, William Walcker, James Campbell, Alexander Ingram, Robert Bryan, Henry Brown, James Bane, William Bryan, Jr., Joseph Love.
Page 445.--10th August, 1753. Margaret Love (alias Bryan) to James Mitchell, mortgage or personalty to indemnify Mitchell against a judgment vs. him in County Court, Augusta, as surety (special bail) for Joseph Lane, absuit of James Dean, merchant. Teste: James Campbell and Wm. Bryan, Wm. Beard.
Page 526.--21st November, 1753. Patrick Lynch's appraisement by Henry Brown, James Neeley, Wm. Bryan.
Page 367.--29th November, 1760 (?). Malcom Campbell's estate appraised by Wm. Bryan, Neal McNeal, James Neelley.
Page 467.--25th September, 1766. Alexander Boyd's estate appraised, by Francis Smith, Wm. Bryan, James Roberts.
Page 236.--21st February, 1786. Jacob Cale and Grissilla to Wm. Bryan, of Fauquier, 87 bbls. good common flour delivered at Fredericksburg. Mortgage. (Note: this record may belong to either William Bryan, Sr. or his son, William Bryan, Jr.).
? Information on William Bryan
William Bryan Birth: 1685 55 51 -- Down, Ireland Death: 1789 (Age 104) -- Botetourt, Virginia, USA 1 June 1708 (Age 23) Margaret Strode - [View Family (F00251)] Down, Ireland
WILLIAM BRYAN William Bryan, son of Francis Bryan III and grandson of William Smith Bryan, was born in 1684 and died at Roanoke City in 1789 at the age of 104. He is said to have left County Down, Ireland in 1717 or 1718. The town of Bryansford near Ballyconey, County Down was named for his family. It has been said that he sent his little son, John, into the woods to cut a stick to make a handle used in weaving. The boy was arrested for poaching. Thereupon the family sailed for America where "timber was free, and there were no constables." Bryan helped organize Donegal Township and a Presbyterian church in what is now Lancaster Co., Pa. It is said that his home at one time was a place called Old Salem in New Jersey. This may account for the settlement in Virginia being named Salem. He and his son, William, settled on a fine body of land in Roanoke Valley, in 1729, building their cabin beside Lake Spring.
On the narrow, level top of Reservoir Hill, overlooking the town of Salem, is an old graveyard. At the east end is a monument in memory of William Bryan I, William Bryan II, and Margaret Watson, wife of William II, "erected by a grateful descendant, Thornton Whaling, D.D." Margaret Watson Bryan was born in 1724 and died in 1804.
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The information about William Bryant of Orange Co. is accurate except to the extent it has been combined with information about William Bryan of Augusta/Roanoke Co.There is no evidence that they are the same person and it appears very likely they are not.Furthermore, Bryan researchers have made a conscious attempt to link William Bryan of Augusta/Roanoke Co. with Morgan Bryan, through marriage to Strode women.Morgan Bryan did marry Martha Strode, that seems to be pretty well accepted, but there is no evidence that the wife of William Bryan was a Strode.Furthermore, William Bryan, if he was from Balleyconey, was from Ulster, and Morgan Bryan was from County Clare.There is no evidence of any connection, either geographical or genetic, between them in Ireland, and in fact their disparate backgrounds make such a connection unlikely.I do not believe that either William of Orange Co. or William of Augusta/Roanoke Co. is related to Morgan Bryan, and I doubt that the two Williams are even related to each other, but I am trying to keep an open mind about that.The claimed descent of Morgan Bryan is pure fiction, as I have detailed in a number of postings on the Bryan genealogy forum, and I can hardly see how either of the William Bryans has a better claim than Morgan does to descent from "Francis Bryan."
This is a huge subject, rife with correct information that is intermingled with incorrect information.Although I consider it likely, as others have surmised, that William Bryant of Orange County has a connection with the Briand line, and some of my autosomal DNA points to a possible connection between me and a descendant of a later arrival in Roanoke Co. (not William Bryan of Augusta/Roanoke), I consider that to be only a working theory at this time.One of the better pieces of suggestive evidence I have seen for a link between Philip Bush, William Bryant, and the Briand family, is the name Josiah, which is common in the Briand line but did not exist in the Bush line until Philip Bush named his eldest son Josiah.At this time I still consider the matter unresolved, and I am looking closely at DNA evidence to try to sort it out.My y-chromosome lineage comes strictly from the Bush line, not the Bryant line, and has nothing to do with Bryants at all.My autosomal DNA may contain both Bryant and Bryan segments because my Dad is a descendant of William Bryant of Orange Co. and my Mom is a descendant of Morgan Bryan.Some Bryan descendants have begun to prematurely claim they have proved descent from Morgan Bryan, sometimes based upon y-chromosome DNA that matches one or more persons named Josiah, but for the reasons just stated, I am skeptical.Would you mind sharing with me your y-search number?I would like to see where you fit into the overall pattern of Bryans.Maybe it will help clarify things.
J. Steven Bush