Hello Richard, Just a quick message to say that I have read your message. I found it 'by mistake' whilst demonstrating how to search on the Web as my Father has just bought a computer. I think he will be able to fill in some of the gaps as he has done some research into our name. However, he is new to computers, E-mail etc and this might take some time! Most of our immediate family live in the South Manchester area. p.s My Dad has found the Capener Coat of Arms which we all have a copy of.Let me know if you do not have it, I could scan it and E-Mail it to you.