joyce welbeck and sibella armstrong
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i have seen many books and articles stating that joyce welbeck who married john carleton was a cousin of henry VIII's wife catherine.
also i have seen mention in several places that sibella armstrong who married adam de carleton was related to the plantagenets.
can anyone shed light on either of these?i was wondering if this has even been proven, and if so what is the lineage to these royal persons?
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