Thank you for your information on the other children.
I. I am trying to deterine if the Timothy in Cataraugus County (Machias, Great Valley, Leon) from about 1830 to anbout 1850 is the same Timothy who was in Trenton Oneida County New York in the 1820 census.That Timothy had two male children 0-10 years of age.I have an ancestor, Anson Carrier, of Oneida County NY who was born ca 1812/1813.Who appears (from census data) to be a granson of John Carrier of Floyd Oneida and nephew of John's son Elias also of Floyd.The Carriers in Floyd all appear to have been located next to the boundary with Trenton.
No Timothy was present in Trenton or Floyd in 1830 and this was the year that Timothy appears in Machias Cattaraugus,
Finally, Timothy's children do not contain so many names characteristic of Anson's family but one of Nelson's sons was an Elias and one was a Marion I think.Marion, depending on the spelling might be the same as Myron, a name characteristic of the Anson family.There appear to have been Myrons, very possibly from this family, later in Wisconsin (I know most of them soon moved to Missouri and points south)
The name evidence just suggests a possbility I think that Anson may have been a member of Timothy's family and is in no way conclusive.If Anson was a member he had parted ways by 1828 or 1829 when he either returned to or remained in Oneida County (I do not know when Timothy arrived in Cattaraugus but it was apparently between 1820 and 1830) One possible explanation is that a Timothy Carrier served in Hicks regiment in the War of 1812.Neal Carrier told me that one of Jere Carrier's family was in that regiment meaning that it was drawn from the Mohawk Valley (Oneida etc) making it likely that the Timothy of Trenton (1820) was the Timothy who served in the Militia.These militias served on the Erie shore and Western New York to prevent invasion or infiltration.This could explain how Timothy first came into contact with Cataraugus (Many of the settlements there date from 1815-1818 ie after the War of 1812)
II. I wanted to ask you whether the information about Timothy coming from England was from handed down family history.The Timothy that was the father of Nelson listed himself in the 1850 and 1860 census as having been born in New York, however (a) this may have been for personal reasons (forgetting, not wanting to admit foreign birth) or it could be that later generations mistook the exact point where the crossing occurred.We do not know for sure what the birthplace of John Carrier (Oneida b. ca 1762) was.You mentioned another brother Luther (of Timothy).John had 3 sons aged 10-16 in 1800.I have assumed one of them was Timothy.If Timothy was a brother of Luther then Luther may have been one of them.
Interestingly, there is a family in Shenedoah Virginia in the 18th century that later went west to West Virginia and Kentucky in the19th century and had characteristic names Milton and Myron was said to have come from England in the mid to late 18th century.I have not studied enough to know when exactly they came or if they came by way of anot her colony or not.
III.I had been considering an alternative possibility that Timothy of Cattaraugus was son of John of Floyd who was hmimself son of Timothy Carrier of Saratoga (1790-1800) and that this same Timothy Carrier was himself the same preson as Timothy Carrier Jr of Sharon Litchfield Connectuctt who was a solider in the French and Indian War (ca 1760 during which time he probably servied in New York near Albany) and during the Revolution when he was an ensign in the Militia from Sharon.After his father Deacon Timothy Carrier died in 1781 he buried him and then left (presumably for the West.I believe he is the Timothy Carrier of Saratoga NY in 1790).
Timothy Carrier Sr was b 1699 and lived forst at New London and then at Sharon and married Frances Crippen.He was a deacon at the church in Sharon until his death.His father was Richard Carrier of Andover and his father and mother were Thomas and Martha Allen Carrier.
The weak link in this hypothesis is whether Timothy Carrier of Saratoga was actually father of John Carrier.I thought that the rarity of the name Timothy was indicative of such a relationship.But other than their ages, the fact that Timothy had an adult son at Saratoga in 1790 (and John did not appear in Oneida until 1800) and the assumption of a connection between all three of Timothy of Cattaraugus, Timothy of Trenton and Timothy of Saratoga.
In any case, by accumulating more information, hopefully we can clarify the history of both families unless they are indeed the same.Thank you for your answer to my question