I am not really sure, but now i am starting to think a bit. My great grandmother was from South Africa and married a man named Carroll. I have been trying to get family information but keep ending up against a brick wall as there seems to be so many stupid secrets. I know her name was Joanne Muller/Mueller from Sout Africa. His name was Jack Carroll from County Cork Ierland. they had two children that i know of which were two boy, Fred and Pat.Both biys travelled to Canada at a very young age after there mother died of unknown causes to me....There may have been more children, but again there is so many secrets and family is not willing to talk about it as it is not important, i am told.... any of this ring a bell.....?