Hi Steve, Interesting I just found this message. In it you mention Raymond Chaffee and son Orville who had a daugher named Vivienne. This is my mother. She has a STEP-daughter named Patricia Dougherty who married a Harry Hoffman in 1973. I don't know who "a Warren" is. Must have another Patricia Dougherty somewhere mis-placed, as it's not our family. All the spellings are accurate, and the date for Ray's birth correct, Orville was born 1900 died 1979. Had five sons, Sidney, James, Jack, Billie Rae and David, Daughter Vivienne is the eldest, born 1923. She can track her mother's family back to 1700's in Norway. Amazing documentation to have on both sides of the family. Best regards, Chloe.