good day Alan. Thank you for your quick reply.as i have already stated i am in the very early stages of my research.Joseph Cheese and Sarah Hawkins were my great grand perents, they appear on the copy of my grandfathers birth certificate. The family was mainly from the Lembeth area of London. I'v been able to establish that Joseph had at least three sons, Richard b4/4/1862, Joseph, and my g/f Arthur b 25/2/1867. My father was Joseph Alexander b 16/7/1908 the youngest of 7 surviving children, 4 males 3 f/males. I inturn have one son, Michael Steven, one grandson Steven Michael, We left England late 1968 and settled in current address in Melbourne Australia. I think Joseph Edward Cheese's father was Edward Cheese married to Elizebeth that's all i have at this stage. I will continue my searching, it's all very interesting. Regards Peter.