We are at the same stumbling block.We are descendants of Caleb Church b. 12-19-1772, who we believe is Phoebe Church Wilbor's half brother.I have correspondance dating back to1913 where people were trying to make the same connection we are. Caleb .b 12-19-1772 was Phoebe's (b. 7-15-1755) half-brother.He was born in Dutchess County, NY.Caleb's grandson Oliver thought that his great grandfather's (Phoebe & Caleb's father) name was Caleb. Other sources say that Phoebe's father may have been John. Do you have any information on the Benjamin line - Richard, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Benjamin b. 1732?We know that Benjamin lived in Nine Partners, now Pine Plains, NY.There was a Benjamin, Thomas, and John Church in Dutchess Co., NY, in 1790. Doyou have a list of children for Constant b. 1730 and John b. 1732?