Thanks for the reply. I do have a John Collinson b abt 1817 - in Stalmine Lanc to parents Thomas Collinson and Priscilla Charnley. I have no further i9nformation on him except that he was one of ten children so far. There may be a link there somewhere. The above mentioned John had a brother Thomas b 1807 stalmine Lancs who was my ancestor. Regards, Debbie.