Hi Stephen, I am descended from John Copp born 1831 in Bideford. He married Thurza Cloak born 1834 clovelly in 1855 and had at least 2 children by her, James born 1857 in Bucklands Brewer and Gertrude 1866 in Bideford. john was apparently widowed because in 1881 he was lodging with daughter Gertrude with isaac Copp, his wife Ann and son Alfred. He then married a widow Jane Richards who had 2 children bessie Richards 1869 and samuel richards 1869 born Bideford. they then had further children Alfred Copp 1873 John 1875 and Charles 1880 born bideford. they moved to swansea South Wales where Gertrude married my grandfather Joseph Williams.