Hi. I don't know if this will help you, but I was in contact with a Larry Crim on the ancestry.com message board.His ancestors came to IN from VA, I believe.He seemed to know quite a bit about the Crim family.My ancestor Elinora Crim, daughter of Peter Crim, was born 1829 (where?) and was married in Rockingham County, VA in 1845. I couldn't find a Peter Crim in Rockingham in the census, though.He may know of your John; worth a try anyway. His address is firstname.lastname@example.org.Good luck.