Sorry this took so long.I had not checked GenForum for some time. I know very little about Sarah/Sadie.What I have came from David Grawrock - firstname.lastname@example.org. Bob Reinsel has most of the Cyphert data on the web at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinsel/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinsel/ Here is the basics on the Cypherts: Philip Seifert arrived in Philadelphia on September 25, 1749 on the ship Speedwell. He had three children. His son Philip married Barbara Grett in 1784.They moved to Westmoreland County, Pa after his father's death.Philip died in Unity Township in 1823.Barbara, some or all of the children and others moved to Clarion County Pa.