i never met my grandfather. he died before i was born. im not sure how long before though. i was born in 1980. he and my grandmother had 9 childeren. names: bobby (my father), frank, jack, bill, helen, evelyn, peggy, jean and martha. also had one miscarriage. my grandmother talked about him alot but she never mentioned a date of death. i think his father was herman dinger. but i was actually looking for info about him and possibly generations before him. i used to have a book with listings of dingers all around the world but i seem to have lost it during a move at some point.