Hello Terry, Have you found your grandfather's birth record?I'm surprised that so many people have trouble finding their Irish ancestors when there is SO much information available ie Birth/Marriage /Death records etc. Registration for BMD's became compulsory in Ireland in 1864. Once you get a BMD certificate which you can order after finding the Vol+ Page No's on the Indexes you can then go to the Parish records which can go back several hundred years in some parishes. The certificates usually have the parish where the event ie B/M/D took place.I'm at the Family History Centers here in New South Wales on a regular basis and have access to the Irish records without any problems. All my ancestors were Irish and Scottish. I had no problem finding them. I can have a look for your John George Donegan if you like next time I'm at the centre.The indexes will give the place of birth+ Vol No and Page No. Armed with that info you can then write away for certificate. Anyway, you may have already found John J. You can email me off the message board if you want. Put DONEGAN as the subject on the email.