Tom, I have some information about the origins of both groups from the histories that I was given as a starting point.I just started looking at this yesterday and have no proof of anything, but I did find after sending you the last note that both of these Duncans are married into several other of my lines (Herring, Reaves, Kornegay, McBride, Cox, Bennett and Whitfield) who came from the VA tidewater area and also lived in Duplin, Craven and other counties in NC.The various families then moved on to Jones and Walton counties GA and then on to TN and KY.From TN/KY, the two sets seemed to split to IN or to TX, with nearly all of mine winding up in TX.
1. The Rev. William Duncan line (b. 1630) supposed came from Perthshire Scotland.Supposedly, five of his grandchildren (3 brothers, 2 sisters) came to Jamestown VA in January 1722.I have the following sketchy information for this Duncan line.The birth and death dates are somewhat inconsistent, and there seems to be at least one generation missing based on the ages.
Rev. William Duncan (b. 1630) + Sarah Haldane William Duncan, Jr. (b. 1659) + ?????? William Duncan, III (b. 1690) + Ruth Raleigh John Duncan (b.171? +/-) in Culpeper Cty., VA+ Sina Browning.They moved on to Madison and Bourbon Cty KY Henry Duncan (b.1777) in Bourbon Cty KY + Mary (Polly) Combs James Duncan (b.1806) in Bourbon Cty KY + Annie Proctor John Wesley Duncan (b.1847) in Putnam Cty Indiana + Elizabeth Josephine Owen Emmert Stanley Duncan (b.1872) in Hendricks Cty Indiana + Irena Almeda Walton.They moved to Chanute, Kansas Ray Allen Duncan (b.1898) in Glencoe, OK + Hazel DeJarnett
Unusual names in the 1700s are Haldane, Mehitable, Townsend among the usual Marys and Johns.
2. The Edmund Duncan line (b. 1730) supposed came from Antrim County, Ireland to New Hanover County, NC in 1751 to land owned by Arthur Dobbs.These Duncans settled on the south side of the northern reaches of the Goshen swamp on the Cape Fear River.I have gathered the following:
Edmund Duncan (b. 1730) + Grace ???? William Duncan (b. 1756) in Duplin Cty, NC + Ann Civil Kornegay John Charles Duncan (b. 1803) in Duplin Cty, NC + Francis J. Reaves.John moved on to Jones Cty., GA and then to Pike Cty., AL Talitha Catherine Duncan (b. 1823) + Oliver Beaman
These Duncans married into the Herrings from Duplin Cty. NC.Additionally, at least six of my Edgefield area NC lines moved to Pike Cty., AL in the 1830s in one hugh wagon train. As you may know, Montgomery, AL area was a prominent resettlement area for mason families.
The Ulster Irish were actually Scottish protestants who fled to Ireland between the 1650s and 1720s seeking more freedom and longer land leases.250,000 of them jumped on the boat to America before the Revolutionary war to flee the Catholic/Protestant wars and extremism in Ireland and Scotland.Additionally, many of the VA Scots/Irish migrate to Dobbs land in NC when he was also bringing over his Ulster Irish tenants.
My gut says that these families are related........we just need to go back far enough.........and probably that the Scottish Duncans (who came in 1722) left Scotland for America 30 years earlier than the Ulster Ireland Duncans (who came in 1751).Many of the VA tidewater families moved on the NC before the Revolutionary War and then on to GA, and both of these lines followed the same trail.
It makes sense that the later arriving Ulster Duncans could have hooked up with the VA Duncans when they moved onto NC.