I see you are a descendant of Joost, and therefore a "cousin" of the car guys. By the wording of your message, that my wifes family is also a cousin, I infer that you realize what the connection is. If you do in fact know this, could you please share it with me? I have been doing a lot of chasing of information. I believe that I have a large percentage of the descendants of Joost, and do know the relationship of them down to Charles Edgar Duryea, James Franklin Duryea and Otto Cromwell Duryea. I would really like to know if you can relate my family or not. Thanx for the reply.