I have since found out that John & Albert were born in Vic,Aust. Their father George Duthy b. 1801 Hampshire,Eng.was youngest son of John and Harriett Duthy. John's father was also John married Catherine Lacy. He created the Hampshire-Duthie Coat of Arms in 1773. His father William Duthie b.1690 St Nicholas Aberdeen,Scot.His father James Duthie chr 1658 is the third son of Magnus Duthie to second wife Gellies Mitchell .Most were born in Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland.