Thanks you info There was a Montrose Basin society that had a family tree for the Scotts going back to Sir James Scott (involved in Battle of Tippermuir?) in 1644 see if you can get a copy fills in all the Scotts. I am surprised I don't have two heads with the inter breeding with the Scots and Douglases. Propably explains somethings though! cheers Archibald was born in 1744, his father Archibald, his father Patrick - they had so many children.