Susan, Right, sorry I didn't spell it out more clearly. I did realize that's what was meant after seeing this a time or two. But what's shocking is the number of researchers who copied LNU over to their trees and began sharing it as good information, clearly thinking it was a last name. Same for people who copy info on impossible birthdates in this line and others. Mothers are never born after their children died, but some researchers pretend not to notice.