It sounds as though we might be working from a copy of the same family tree. My tree starts with Thomas Ellerby Bur 2.9.1781. The line descends through William who married Ann Parnell They had about 11 children of whom another William who had a brother Charles (bap.20.1.1817). Is the latter the Charles to whom you refer. William who had a son William who married Fanny Collingwood. They had 14 children of whom Arthur Harold( b. 27.10 1884, d. 1966) who was my grandfather. He was born in Thornton Curtis. If you have a tree descending from Charles then this would give us both a wider view. What interests me is whether anyone has anything before Thomas!