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>>Hi John,every name we can get helps with who is related to who New Castle CO DE. I posted the entire 1696/97 Brandywine Hundred tax list on the Cope Gen-forum recently. I also copied and made a list of Thomas Bird from his will in New Castle CO DE abtract I have . There is a John Buckley listed next to Oliver Cope on that tax list in DE and the Buckley researchers claim he is the son of John Buckley and Mary EMPSON. John Buckley JR is a trustee on the will of Oliver Cope 1697 New Castle CO DE will recorded in Philadelphia. I also have a record of a Cope and Empson marriage in England and there is a Coat of Arms for the marriage there. I posted this info on the Empson forum here. I am also digging into the Burlington CO NJ Quakers now and Gilbert Cope listed the William Clayton family there and listed 4 children of this man all married from 1678 to 1682 in Burlington CO NJ. VERBAL HISTORY CAN BE VERY SIGNIFICANT INDICATORS FOR MOST FAMILIES OF THIS TIME PERIOD, AND THERE WAS A STRONG TENDANCY FOR THE SAME FAMILIES WHO HAD KNOWN EACH OTHER IN ONE PLACE TO MARRY IN ANOTHER LOCATION.THERE WAS THAT DEGREE OF COMFORT IN A KNOWN ENTITY.HAVING A SIMILAR SOCIAL STATUS, RELIGION, AND FINANCIAL SIMILARITIES DID PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLL. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE NAMES OF THE CHILDREN OF THEIR DESCENDANTS?A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF THESE WILL PROVIDE FURTHER TO A PROPODERANCE OF EVIDENCE FOR CONNECTION. Do you know if the Emson Bird listed 1755 Orange CO NC tax index is the same Empson Bird son of Thomas Bird in New Castle CO DE. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. THE EMPSON IN NC WAS A SON OF MY ANCESTOR, JAMES BIRD AND HIS WIFE MARY ASHFORD. HE WAS BORN IN 1749, MORE THAN LIKELY IN NEW CASTLE COUNTY, DEL. There are alot of Quakers listed on the 1755 Orange CO NC tax index on the internet. One of them is the Vestal family that lived by John Cope 1715 Bradford, Chester CO PA. ONE OF THE VESTAL DAUGHTERS WAS WIFE TO WILLIAM JAY WHO SETTLED AROUND 1750 INTO THE PART OF ORANGE COUNTY WHICH BECAME CASWELL COUNTY, ALONG WITH MY ANCESTOR JOHN SATTERFIELD, WHO HAD MARRIED SARAH JAY, BELIEVE SISTER TO WILLIAM JAY.AS I RECALL, WILLIAM VESTAL BECAME A QUAKER BECAUSE OF HIS MARRIAGE TO A QUAKER WOMAN, AS SHE FACED BEING REMOVED FROM THE UNION FOR HAVING MARRIED OUT OF THE FAITH.AS I RECALL, ALL WAS RECONCILED WHEN WILLIAM VESTAL JOINED THE MEETING.AFTER WILLIAM DIED, HIS WIFE [MARY, I THINK] SETTLED INTO ORANGE COUNTY, AND BECAME PART OF THE CANE CREEK MEETING, ALONG WITH HER SON, JAMES VESTAL, NOW IN AN AREA OF ALAMANCE COUNTY, BRIDGING OVER INTO GUILFORD COUNTY, NC.RECORDS FOR THESE FOLKS CAN BE FOUND IN THE QUAKER ARCHIVES AT GUILFORD UNIVERSITY, LOCATED IN THE TOWN OF GUILFORD COLLEGE, NEAR GREENSBORO. The Babb family listed 1696/97 DE tax list went to Frederick CO VA and were part of the Hopewell Quakers there. This Babb family is related to Oliver Cope thur his dau. Elizabeth Cope Foulke who's dau. Sarah Foulke marr. Thomas Babb JR. William Vestal listed by John Cope 1715 Bradford, Chester CO PA son of Oliver and William Vestal has a 1745 Frederick CO VA will. William Vestal's mother Alice was a Quaker convirt to the Kiethian Baptist religious movement 1697 but her son reverted back to the Quakers in Bradford, Chester CO PA. Richard Buffington trustee on the Oliver Cope will 1697 DE was also a Kiethian Baptist 1697 listed with Alice Vestal by Gilbert Cope in his 1881 History of Chester CO PA book. David<< DO YOU MIND IF I SHARE YOUR DATA ABOVE WITH THE JAY FORUM.THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OTHER INSIGHTS.