Greg...I think we're on the right track. In my notes, I have a marriage for Phillip Englert to Rosa Strischutz on Jan. 23, 1853 at St. Peter's Church in Hamilton Co., Ohio. This info was copied over 25 years ago, and was copied from reconstructed records that were destroyed during a courthouse fire. Does this fit with your records? Mary Englert Lotz death certificate said her father was John Englert, and his naturalization papers were in my Uncle's papers when he passed away.Other family names of Franz Englert's family are found in Mary's family. I've been researching these families for almost 40 years.Give me some time to digest this info.The Internet has opened doors that seemed to be forever closed.