My name is Doug Etzel, my father is Spencer, and his father is "Ig" (Ignacious) Etzel. Ig lived outside of Salem near Sublimity, where he farmed and worked as a cook. Ig had a large number of brothers and sisters (I think as many as 8 or 10). Its very likley that Clifford Etzel and Ig Etzel were related. I believe that Ig's father (my Great Grandfather) immigrated from Germany, but I don't have details. Ig's youngest brother Hillary still lives in the Salem area where he had an insurance office for many years. I have heard that his son, Kevin, has done some research on the Etzel family in Oregon.