NO- I never saw this. Thank you so much, I will follow through. I want everything on this family. I have been looking for awhile. My Dutch is very poor but thank goodness for computers and lang centers. I will add this and please send me more and connect me with anyone else who is researching. THANK YOU Jody firstname.lastname@example.org--I can share from Trijntje Bryker and Johannis Van Der Vliet on down.