Thanks for the excellent synopsis of family history.I was quite impressed with your homework, and I must say that it is always refreshing to correpond with someone who actually has done so much research.I also liked your use of the word "extant," for it is one of my favorites--very stylish! As for pinning down the exact dates, I have received my information orally from relatives.I do know, from reading Lucy Hannah White Flake's book:To the Last Frontier, that her ancestors were shipwrecked, while on the ship "Angel Gabriel,"which foundered off the New England coast in the year 1545.Perhaps land was apportioned out early-on, you know, like the way some companies sell star dust and asteroids--before we ever get there.I think the King Charles land grant, is also mentioned in Lucy Hannah's book. I do hold family pedigree papers, which go back to the year 1327 A.D., but alas, they are buried somewhere in my storage shed, along with detailed information regarding Samuel Flake--being a Regulator and such.The earliest ancestor was "Roger Griswold," who lived in Southern England. I have also read the account in Osmer Dennis Flake's book, regarding his discovery of the Mississippi slave-holding branch of the family, while on a Mormon "mission." I have been told by my aunt, that there are family records going back to the Ninth Century, but they might be hard to get now, since the lady who owned them was living in Washington state, before she died.I had hoped to retrieve those, but I'm not sure my elderly aunt is quite aware of how to retrieve them.She is the goldmine of all family history, and I wager to say that no one knows what she knows....I mean it! I was fortunate enough to meet Roberta Flake Clayton--at the advanced age of 104--who was the daughter of William Jordan Flake.My aunt took me to see her, before she died.She was very infirm and blind, but had a mind as "sharp as a tack" (forgive the cliche). She also lived alone, in her own house. I was very gratified--thanks to you--to know that I have relatives who served the Confederate cause.I am nothing but proud of this, for I hate the Yankee Nation, NOT the United States of America, mind you...I wasn't sure that my/our? people had any war-like attributes, as they were mainly family types, who sheltered under the wing of the illustrious Commodore Perry Owens. Owens was a Sheriff of Holbrook, Arizona--where my grandfather is buried--who was an "avenging angel" in vigilant protection of the Mormon people.While not quite as famous as Wyatt Earp, he holds his own, and is listed in books about famous gunslingers. I have been told the story-- by a man named Kay Brewer of Snowflake--how one day, Owens was riding down a trail, when he spied several Navajo braves in a head-on situation.He had long blond hair down to his knees, but it was tucked under his hat.He removed his hat and shook his hair out.This freaked the Indians out, as they probably figured that a white man with hair like that was"big medicine,"which he clearly was.They parted to let him pass, as they "skeedaddled." I admire this man--Commodore P. Owens--and hope to meet him some day--in the life after-- to express my thanks to him for paving the way for non-violent people.I always admire those who do the nasty work, so that others can maintain their standards. William Jordan Flake inducted the first black man into the Melchizedek Priesthood, which technically was not allowed.His name was Green Flake, and he too achieved some measure of fame.I am very proud of my ancestor for doing this, because I hate racism in all of its forms.Too often, people think that Southerners are hateful, hurtful people, but my Confederate forebears were nothing but noble and good.They cannot be blamed for the institution of slavery, for that was a legacy of the English.At any rate, the Mormon branch freed their slaves in the 1840's prior to the Civil War, and thus they became "Union" types. Thanks again for your communication.