Thank you so much for the information, but unfortunately I don't think its the sameAppolina. Mine was born in 1832. and had 3 children after 1867. Philip born in 1868, Joseph born in 1870 and Mary, born in 1874. So the dates don't add up. Thank you so much though for all this information on the origins of the Fleckenstein name, I am sure it will become usefull in time.