Hello Joseph. I'm not sure if I have replied to your follow-up message or not. I am in contact with so many people over the internet about family history it's not funny! Sorry if I haven't. Anyway, We may be on the same track. The Patrick Fogarty I'm interested in was born to Michael Fogarty and Margaret Wallace in Tipperary (Thurles?)and he had a brother named James born in 1869. I can find no trace of Patrick's birth/baptism date. Are these part of your family? If so we might be able to swap information. Patrick was my wife's grandfather. His marriage and death certificates do not show his age, only parents and place of birth. Hope you can help.