in 1861, Horace 5(b Hackney)and his mother Frances 28governess as well as other son Edward 7 (b Suffolk)are living with Frances mother Louisa Upcraft 60, a stationer in Stamford Hill, Hackney, MDSX along with a niece of Louisa's Emily Carter 20, Frances listed as married
in 1881 Horace is a hospital orderly and soldier at Haslan Military Hopsital in Alverstoke, Hampshire
the name is often misspelt making it had to track someone
Edward and Frances marriage cert may tell you his occupation, perhaps he is a sailor and away a lot???