Gary, will check and see if I have Herman. Where is the family farm located? I do know that from what I have it appears that my Grandfathers family came to Breiman as soon as they immigrated. There is a spot between Rockwood and Campbell Hill (Wine Hill actually) that my brother told me years ago had at one time all belonged to my Grandfather's family. He said that "Grampy" had pointed it out to him while they were riding around one day.