Thanks so much for your response.It provided a lot of helpful information.I have some other information from a different message board that is a little different from what you sent and I would like to share it with you and get your opinion.
My other information indicates that John (Johannes) Garman married Ava Barbara Varner.However, her birth date is 27 April 1762 and death date 16 November 1836.She, too, is supposedly buried in Shoops Church in Harrisburg.Since I live in Florida, I have not visited Shoops yet to verify any of this information.I hope to visit sometine in the spring or summer to do some research and maybe then I can sort some of this out.Meanwhile, I have two Barbara's.
The info you sent supplied a marriage date of 1870.Since that couldn't be correct, I am assuming there is a typo and that the correct year of marriage is 1780.Given that Samuel was born in 1781, this seems logical.
The other information you sent was great.Not only was I able to locate John in the 1790 and 1800 census, I also found "Johannes Leonard Garman" (i.e., a 'Leonard Garman')(born 17 Dec. 1724) (identified to me as John (Johannes) father who emigrated with his brother Adam (also located on the 1790 and 1800 census)on the ship "Albany" arriving in Philadelphia on 2 September 1749.Johannes Leonart Garmen (alternate spelling?) married Catharina Elizabeth KINZER on 4 July 1752 and they lived in Lancanster Co.All of this is "unverified" so I provide it with caution!!!!!!At least some of it seems possible with the "finds" on the census records.More research is needed.
Nevertheless, I again thank you for what you have supplied, hope I have provided some more "clues" for you to check and offer to assist you in any way possible should I be able to.I don't think the message boards share the e-mail addresses, so I will supply mine and = if you would like = we can correspond direct since it does appear we are researching the same general family areas.It is email@example.com.