My theory on the parents of this John Geer is the son of Solomon Geer, grandson of Issac Geer, and great grandson of George Geer & Sarah Allyn.This is based on the following:
In the traditional sources of information on the American Geer Family (i.e. The Geer Genealogy: A Historical Record of George and Thomas Geer and Their Descendants in the United States from 1623 to 1923, by Walter Geer (Norwood, MA: The Plimpton Press, 1923 and The Families of George Geer and Thomas Geer: A Supplement to the 1923 Genealogy, by the Geer Family Association, (Lebanon, CT: Geer Family Association, 1991), information on Solomon Geer [ID# 44] is limited to noting his name (1923 Geer Genealogy, p. 21) and mentioning that he "possibly died in West Indies in 1763/4" (1991 Geer Supplement, p. G-4).
Both resources, however, list the descendants of Solomon's nephew, Solomon Geer [ID# 154], as son David [ID# 390] and grandson John [ID# 985].The 1991 Geer Supplement, p. G-210, begins the list of descendants of John Geer [ID# 985], but notes "This family needs more research."
The hypothesis I set forth here is that the descendants attributed to Solomon Geer [ID# 154] are actually the descendants of John Geer (d. 1769) Orange Co., NC, son of Solomon Geer [ID# 44] b. @1702 ----- meaning that the information attributed to John Geer [ID# 895] and David Geer [ID# 390] is the information that belongs to John Geer (b. 1790); son of David Geer (d. 1821) White Co., TN; son of John Geer (d. 1769); son of Solomon Geer [ID# 44].
This theory is presented for the following reasons:
1. The traditional sources indicate a descent from Solomon Geer [ID# 154], 1760-1809, to son David [ID#390], b. 1781 and grandson John [ID# 895], b. @1801 (1923 Geer Genealogy, pp. 56 &116 and 1991 Geer Supplement, pp. G-103 & G-210).While David, ID# 390, and John, ID# 895, may have been descendants of Solomon (ID# 154), their birth dates are problematic if we believe the verified documentation of John Geer (b. 1790) of Rutherford Co., NC.
Note the 1923 Geer Genealogy, p. 56 & 116:
David Geer [ID# 390], b. abt. 1781, was the son of Solomon Geer [ID# 154), b.1760 - d.1809, had a son John Geer [ID# 895], b. abt. 1801- bef. 1861, who had sons:
Solomon [ID# 1413],
Washington [ID# 1414],
William [ID# 1415], and
John [ID# 1416, who had a son C. D. Geer].
Note the 1991 Geer Supplement, pp. G-210 & G-358:
John Geer [ID# 895] was born about 1790in North Carolina.He died ... .He married Martha "Matsey" Harris on 11 January 1815 in Rutherford, North Carolina.She was born in 1789.
Solomon [ID# 1413] (1817-1888),
David Washington[ID# 1414] (1820-1891),
William Madison [ID# 1415] (1815-?),
Nancy [ID# 895-1] (1816-1895),
Mary "Polly" [ID# 895-2] (1821-?),
John, Jr. [ID# 1416] (@1826 or 1832? )
who had a son Champ D. Geer [ID# 1416-1] (1861-?),
Adam H. Geer [ID# 1416-2] (1862-?),
Dovey Jane Geer [ID# 1416-3] (1865-?).
2. Robert S. Geer in his 1992 revised edition of "The Geer Family of Rutherford County, N.C. with Related Families," (Roswell, GA: Robert S. Geer, 1992), p. 4, notes that David Geer [Geer ID#390, his ID# 31]
"From the census records and circumstantial evidence, it is felt David Geer was born about 1745 (see 1800 Census ... showing age at 45 upward)".
The 1800 U. S. Census - Rutherford Co., NC for David Geer household:
1 male under 10, 2 males 10-16, 1 male 16-26, 1 male 45 upward
2 females under 10, 2 females 10-16, 1 female 16-26, 1 female 45 upward.
The 1810 U. S. Census - Rutherford Co., NC for David Geer (spelled Gear) household:
1 male under 10, 2 males 16-26, 1 male 45 upward
2 females under 10, 1 female 16-26, 1 female 45 upward
If we are to believe the U. S. Census information, then it is clear that the David Geer living in Rutherford Co., NC would not have been the same David Geer [ID# 390], b. 1781.
BUT WHERE DOES THIS DAVID (b. @1745) COME FROM:
We know from the last will and testament of John Geer (d. 1769) Orange Co., NC that he had a son named David. He could be the David we are looking to place.He would be of similar age and in the same area of North Carolina.
As noted in "The Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, The Heritage of Rutherford County North Carolina," Volume 1,(Winston-Salem, NC: The History Division, Hunter Publishing Company, 1984), p. 211:
"John Geer was born in 1790 as of the 1850 census.He was the son of David Geer, a descendant of George Geer.George Geer was born about 1621 in Heavitree, England and died in 1726 in Preston, Connecticut at 105 years of age."
While documentation of this association of John Geer (b. 1790) to David Geer a descendant of George Geer is not provided, it is known that it was written by descendants of John Geer (b. 1790] - Solomon "Lionel" & Mary (Fortune) Geer.If the above information had come from the 1923 Geer Genealogy then why wouldn't it have included the other known generations of David's father Solomon [ID# 154], his grand-father Jacob [ID# 46], and great-grandfather Isaac [ID# 11] the son of George [ID# 1] or used a more specific term such as 2nd-great grandson.I speculate that the either the authors: 1) did not know the relationship to George; 2) abbreviated the notation because of space; or 3) had some indication that Solomon [ID# 154] was not the father of their David.It does open another possibility that Solomon [ID# 154] is not the father of David, b. @1745, and grandfather of John, b. 1790.
3. Family Group Record at FamilySearch http://www.familysearch.orghttp://www.familysearch.org (© 2002 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc.) for Isaac Geer (AFN: 36SS-GP) and Martha Lee (AFN: C3ZN-B2) lists a son John Geer (AFN: 1KMJ-Q40) being born 1729, baptised 12 Oct 1729.It also lists a son Solomon Geer (AFN: V27T-9Q) being born abt. 1728 in North Groton, New London, CT also baptised on 12 Oct 1729.
Additionally it lists a son Nathan Geer (AFN: 1KMJ-Q3R) as a son of Isaac & Martha (Lee) Geer.This person appears to be the same Nathan Geer [ID# 140] on p. 31 of the 1923 Geer Genealogy who is the son of Isaac Geer, Jr. [ID# 38].
Accepting the 1923 Geer Genealogy that Isaac & Martha (Lee) Geer had only 9 children, I place John (AFN: 1KMJ-Q40) as the son of Solomon (AFN: V27T-9Q).
4. Beginning with the last will and testament of John Geer (d. 1769) in Orange Co., NC, it is well documented that John Geer (d. 1769) was the fore bearer of a large number of descendants in and around Orange, Rutherford and Wake Counties, North Carolina.
5. The suspicion that the original placement of David Geer (ID# 390] was a mistake from the beginning.
6. The placement of John Geer (d. 1769) as a son of Solomon Geer [ID# 44] would perverse the use of the name Solomon in subsequent generations of the family.
Based on the above information, I put forth the hypothesis that the descendants of John Geer [ID# 895] as listed in the 1923 Geer Genealogy and the 1991 Geer Supplement are the children of John Geer (b. 1790) who was the son of David Geer (b.@1745 - 1821 White Co., TN)**; grandson of John Geer (d. 1769) Orange Co., NC; great-grandson of Solomon Geer [ID# 44] b. aft. 1703; 2nd great-grandson of Isaac Geer [ID# 11] 1681-1745; and 3rd great-grandson of George Geer [ID# 1] the immigrant ancestor.
**This David Geer could not be the son of Solomon Geer (ID# 154) as noted in the "The Families of George Geer and Thomas Geer: A Supplement to the 1923 Genealogy," by the Geer Family Association,(Lebanon, CT: Geer Family Association, 1991), p. G-103, based on the fact he would have been born @1745 at least 15 years before his father.
------>CONTINUED RESEARCH IS NEEDED <------
and proof must still be located.
Samuel T. Geer