Your husband is right, I do live in Utah. My mother and his grandfather,John, were brother and sister. I remember Deryl, but I believe he was younger. I remember his brother Alan, he was more my age. We used to play baseball together. I would be happy to have any information you have about the Gesaman family. You have my e-mail address, my home address is Bruce Jolly 1656 25th St Ogden, Utah.