I have been reading over the information you have listed about North Carolina.
I believe that our John Gilbert was in fact John Gilbert b. abt 1783 to Benjamin F.and Hannah Butler Gilbert in Hancock/Greene County GA or possibly born in Bedford County, VA.
There is no way to prove this without any doubt but please hear me out.
In researching I have learned that Hannah Butler was a daughter to Edmund Butler of Louisa County, VA.
She married BENJAMIN F. GILBERT August 04, 1779 in Augusta County/Bedford Co., Virginia (Source: Virginia Marriage Records from Augusta Co./Bedford Co/.Va..), son of SAMUEL GILBERT and MARTHA WEBSTER.
Edmund and Mary Butler moved to Greene County, Georgia prior to April 9, 1788 when he was listed as a Witness to a deed for 200 acres from Milly and Benjamin Gilbert, Jr. to James Garrett of Charlotte Co., Va., for 100 pounds. Milly was one of the daughters of James Garrett ("Some Georgia Records", Vol 2, Rev. Silas E. Lucas, Jr. P 174 & pg 324).
A son of theirs Capt. William Butler married CHARITY GARRETT 1796 in Hancock County, Georgia. She was thedaughter of JAMES GARRETT and MOURNING WOODHAM.
Greene County, Georgia: Book A (1787-1806) pg 68.
The following is the will of Edmund Butler:
In the name of God, Amen.
I, Edmond Butler of the county of Hancock and state aforesaid, being in a tolerable state of health and of perfect and sound mind and memory, do make this my last will and testament in manner and form following: (to wit). Principally and in the first place, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of God who gave it to me; my body I leave to be buried in a decent, Christian like manner at the discretion of my executors, and as to the worldly goods where-with it hath pleased God to bless me in this life, I give and dispose of them as is hereafter mentioned viz.
First, I lend unto Mary (Street), my dearly beloved wife, the plantation whereon I now live, with the mansion house, household furniture, and also all my livestock and every kind whatsoever, together with my plantation tools and farming implements and also a negro man named and known by the name of, Frank, a negro woman names Fanny, a negro boy named Arthur, a negro boy named Jack, and a negro girl named Martha to hold to her and her assigns for and during her natural lifetime, and after her death, the land being two hundred and sixty two and a half acres, to be divided between my well beloved sons (to wit) John, William and Harry.
Item. I give and bequeath unto Edmond, my well beloved son, eighty seven and half acres of land including the plantation whereon he now lives, a negro girl named Sarah to hold to him and his heirs forever.
Item. I give unto my well beloved son John, a negro girl named Sukky to hold to him and his heirs and assigns forever.
Item. I give and bequeath to my well beloved son, William, a negro boy named Moses to hold and and to his heirs and assigns forever.
Item. I give and bequeath to my well beloved son, Harry, a negro boy named Adam to hold to him and his heirs and assigns forever.
Item. I give and bequeath unto my well beloved son-in-law Benjamin Gilbert, the sum of one collar. (dollar?)
Item. I give and bequeath unto Samuel Gilbert, Edmond Gilbert, Polly Gilbert, Patsey Gilbert, John Gilbert, my beloved grandchildren, six hundred and twenty-five dollars to be equally divided amongst them.
Item. I give and bequeath unto Fanny Gilbert, my well beloved granddaughter a negro girl named Mary to hold to her and her heirs and assigns forever, and the two last legacies to be paid after their grandmother's death.
I also hereby constitute and appoint my well beloved sons, Edmond Butler, & John Butler, and Randolph Rutland, my well beloved friend, the sole executors of this, my last will and testament, annulling & revoking all others & former wills, legacies by me heretofore made, ratifying and confirming this only to be my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the 27th April 1801.
Edmond X Butler (seal)
James Garrett's will was probated April 13, 1795 in Greene County, Georgia naming his wife (Mourning) and children, Hannah Woodham, Fanny Butler, Elizabeth Barksdale, Ann Ford, Susanna Butler, Mary Garrett, William Garrett, Charity Garrett, Edmond Garrett and James O. Kelly Garrett.
His wife, Mourning got two negroes, Hannah and Beck during her widowhood. Son, Henry got land above Greens borough; son, William - 200 acres; son, Edward - 200 acres; son, James Kelly Garrett - 200 acres. Residue to be divided after death of his wife. Exctrs: wife, EDMUND BUTLER, SR., & Jonadab Reid, Wit; Wm. Evand, William Gilbert & James Dowdle.
Notice that one witness was William Gilbert.
Charity Garrett was born in 1778, the daughter of James and Mourning Garrett. James' will was probated April 13, 1795 in Greene County, naming his wife and children, Hannah Woodham, Fanny Butler, Elizabeth Barksdale, Ann Ford, Susanna Butler, Mary Garrett, William Garrett, Charity Garrett, Edmond Garrett and James O'Kelly Garrett.
(Charity Butler's application for Bounty Land filed in Copiah Co., Miss. June 7, 1851).
Notice the Barksdale surname for the daughter?
This is the family info for Elizabeth Barksdale:
Birth: Oct. 6, 1764
Death: Nov. 13, 1822
Dau of James & Mourning (Shivers) Garrett, married Abner Barksdale 4 Sep 1786 Charlotte Co, VA.
1. Wm Fleming b. 2 Sep 1787
m. Rosanna Smith
2. Hannah b. 3 May 1789
3. Mourning b. 7 Jun 1791 m. John Gilbert
4. Nancy b. 27 Sep 1794
5. Unity Jane b. 23 Apr 1797 m. Davis Short
6. Higgason b. 25 Sep 1799
7. Joseph b. 1 Jan 180 (buried in Holmes County, MS)
#1 Nancy Keziah Carter
#2 Rebekah Cochran
8. Susan G b. 10 Sep 1804
Using this information we can place the following families in Pike County, MS and the surrounding areas.
We know that Abner Barksdale was grandfather to John W. Gilbert. Some of the Barksdale family members migrated to Holmes County, MS when John W. Gilbert did so.John W. and Charlotte Miller Gilbert later moved into Attala County, MS as mentioned in my grandmothers diary and by records from Attala County.
There is a John Gilbert in Natchez, Adams County, MS who is well documented and was I believe an attorney.I have found no mention of any of our line being located in Adams County although it is possible that the attorney John was a cousin to our John.
However going by birth date information and knowing that these 4 families migrated together from NC, VA, GA, AL, and eventually into Pike and Marion Counties in MS leads me to believe that John W. Gilbert was in fact the son of Benjamin F. and Hannah Butler Gilbert.
I would welcome any thoughts or comments you care to make.
I am still researching the possible connection between Elizabeth Martin and John W. Gilbert. Mourning died 3 Nov. 1822.Traditionally women remarried quickly once a spouse died.It is not beyond belief that Mourning remarried during the seven years she lived after the death of John Gilbert.While she may or may not have given birth to Elizabeth she may have married her father or Elizabeth could be a cousin to our John W. Gilbert.John W. would have been only 7 years old or so when both his mother and grandmother passed.I am almost positive that someone kept house for Abner and perhaps Elizabeth merely grew up with John W. and listed him in her Bible because of their close association.There are as you can see a number of reasons why he might be listed in her Bible.