Dear Bill, Thanks for really intresting info. Marjorie Bos also contacted Tonys' Aunty Shiela now Pidd with info. Yes I live in Chesterfield and maybe Aunty Sheila knows them. I am still convinced about the Gilthorpes in New Orleans being related. Its hard to trace without dates but ther are passenger lists for ships from way back. Very time consuming without dates or ports. Please let me know if you find out more. Alison.