Hi Polly, Thanks for your mesage, I have only recently discovered the Gittins line in my tree, So I'm not that familiar with them, what I have so far though is, Thomas Gittins, born Flint, Whitford, in about 1813. He married twice, his first wife was Sarah, maiden name I'm not sure of, but its possibly Rogers, They had two children, George and John Gittins, born in Manchester in 1839 and 1840 (ish), Then Sarah died, and Thomas remarried, very quickly!! To an Elizabeth, Also surname I'm not sure on, but there is a record of a Thomas Gittins marrying an Elizabeth Rogers. They went on to have loads more kids, all in manchester. I'm not sure on Thomas' family, he did have a niece called Harriet Gittins, born about 1838 in Flint, and a nephew called George, born about 1845 also in Whitford, Flint. I'm not sure on any siblings or parents of Thomas. Could there be a link with our Gittins families?? I'd be interested to hear what you think. Please feel free to email me at email@example.com I look forward to your reply. Regards, Benn.