I believe you and my husband must be distant cousins. Eberhardt & Catherine are also my husband, Mark's fourth great grandparents. He is descended from their son John, then Daniel Webster Lutman, Charles Edwin Lutman and his daughter is Bernice Mae Lutman who married Wilber Perry. They are my husband grandparents. I am doing the family history research for both his family and mine. Possibly we might have information to share.