Hi Norma, Thank you for taking a look over my theory about the Alabama/Mississippi Grammer connection.I'm not sure about the Frances Marion Grammer and niece with children living in the household.Maybe someone from the Andrew Jackson Grammer line has an idea on that one...
I mistyped on the 1830 census for James Grammer in Tuscaloosa County, AL.The females should read: female age 30-40 (born 1790-1800) female age 10-15 (born 1815-1820) female age 10-15 (born 1815-1820) female age under 5 (born 1825-1830)
I know what you mean about mixing up the two Grammers (James Riley and James Henry).I get the same thing with my James born ~1810 and the older James born 1780-1790.There are two James Grammers in the early 1800's also.
1) James Grammer born 1780-1790.His wife is unknown. I have a theory on the name of his wife (see below).He is listed as head of household in the 1830 census.
2) James G. Grammer born abt 1810.His wife is Elizabeth Grizzle.The children of James G. Grammer and wife, Elizabeth Grizzle, are named:
John E. Grammer born ~1836 AL Joseph W. Grammer born ~1837 AL Curtis C. Grammer born 1838 MS Charles McCloude Grammer (my direct ancestor) born 1840 MS Benjamin Franklin Grammer born 1842 MS Lucinda Caroline Grammer born ~1845 MS
Here's my theory on the name of wife to James Grammer born 1780-1790:
There is a female on the 1830 census with James born 1790-1800.If she is the mother of the children listed, then her birth is probably closer to 1790.
There is a female on the 1840 census in Tuscaloosa County, AL named Nancy Gramer age 40-50 (born 1790-1800) with 1 female age 5-10 (born 1830-1835), 2 males age 5-10 (born 1830-1835).
It is possible that this Nancy is the spouse to James Grammer born 1780-1790.The age matches, the location matches, and the last name matches
Even the children match, if you think William Calvin Grammer and Frances Marion Grammer are brothers and they are brothers to James G, Robert, Joseph, John, Andrew Jackson and the unknown male born 1825-1830.
The female in the 1840 census age 5-10 could be the infant under 5 from the 1830 census (newborn in 1830 and 10 in 1840).The two males in the 1840 census age 5-10 could be William Calvin Grammer and Frances Marion Grammer.The dates of birth for these two boys match up to the census DOB.
Unless of course someone already has dibs on Nancy, then that idea goes up in smoke :-)