Dear fellow Greatorex's it is amazing to me to see so many others out there. Yes I have met the odd one or two over the years but generally I have found the Greatorex a fairly rare species! I believe my family have traced the family tree back to either 1600 or 1400, I will try to dig it out, it may prove useful to others. By the way one of our ancient ancestors is buried in Westminster Abbey. PS the Great-King line is absolutely bogus, well in my line anyway. The Derbyshire origin I believe is where we have come from.