Copied from postings to Piper family Gen Forum 8/11/03 Would your grandmother's name happen to be Idolia? The entry in Bernice Greenamyer Bailey's scrapbook reads "Aunt Ida Piper died the 25 of Nov at Mrs. Idolia Meyers"1948. I'm trying to figure out just how they were related. Bernice Elizabeth Greenamyer mother was Louie Margaret Sibra and her father was William Henry Greenamyre/Greenamyer. I'm guessing that "Aunt Ida Piper" is related to her side of the family and not that of her husband, Alvin Ellsworth Ribby, but I don't know for sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 8/11/03 Yes, my Grandmother was Idolia Meyers. I have some postcards that my Aunt gave me(Idolia's daughter) just this weekend and I only started looking at them today. Some of them are addressed to Mrs. William Greenamyer and a few others with that last name. Also in another book are a few with the last name of Botsford to Mr. and Mrs. William Greenamyer from Mr. and Mrs. F. Botsford about a daught Ruth born 6 August 1913 and one from another Botsford (his name I cannot read the first letter, looks like it may be a "D" making his name Dell and his wife Helen who had a child named Cecil Adelbert Botsford on 6 August 1910 with directions to send a card to someone named Jennie. 8/11/03 I am not a relative, only a descendant of the family that was friends of the Pipers. My mother remembers them. Charles and Ida were husband and wife. I am not sure of her maiden name. My mother stated that they had no children and they loved to travel. When my Grandma Meyers died, I received some of her papers. I think that Charles had a sister named Lillie. Sorry no last name. Ida went to visit her in Lansing June 12, 1908 (after they were living in West Branch and Ida and Lillie were going to visit Charlie's father. She sends a post shortly after stating she is staying at 629 Park Place with Mrs. William Hardy and she is going to mother's the next day. I don't think Mrs. Hardy is related as when she writes August 7, 1908 she calls Ida "Mrs. Piper" There is also a card from Ohio that starts "Dear Cousin," and is signed Ed and Maud. There is a second from cousin Maud to Ida but has not post mark but the Pipers are living in West Branch. A card from Essie that starts "Dear Cousin Ida" Postmarked Canton, Ohio. Most of these postcards are 1906-1912. On July 19, 1905 they were living at 613 Park Place in Lansing, Michigan. On December 22, 1907 they were living in West Branch, Michigan. My mother always refers to them as "Uncle Charlie" and "Aunt Ida Piper". If you have more specific questions or names, I can ask my mother. 8/26/03 There is a postcard dated 1909 and addressed to Mrs. Martha Greenamyer North Lansing 1404 Massachusetts Street Michigan. It looks at though it is from E. MacLoren - a friend. On November 7, 1911 there is a card addressed to William Greenamyer from Cora which reads (back)Dear Sister and all I thought I would drop you a line to let you know I have not forgot your. Hope this will find you all well. The R???? Place has been sold and they are fixing it up. I will try and do better next time I write. (front) Best Birthday Wishes. On June 6, 1908 there is a card addressed to Mr. William Greenamyre from Ida which reads (back)Dear brother, I am in Flint visiting Mr. and Mrs. Piper folks but Mrs. Piper is not at home, but I am having a good time with Nellie and the rest. Will be in Lansing on Monday about ten oclock on the Grand Trunk train. (front) picture of Michigan School for Deaf and Dumb, Flint, Mich. There is one postmarked Oct 27 not sure of year to Mr. Will Greenamyre 1404 Massachusetts Ave Lansing, Mich. reads Aunt Martha if you get a letter for me or any mail. Please send to 301 Corruna Ave. Owaso Mich. I am a working in the Furniture Factory. So good by Floyd R. There is one from Bernice to William dated Aug 14. October 24, 1909 from Maud M. Rummel of Berlin Center, Ohio to Martha reads Dear Cousin. I have not forgotten that next Wed October 27 is you Birthday and I hope you will live to see a good many Birthdays is the wish of your Cousin. There is one to sister from Leila B. of Ithaca, MI There is one to Aunt Martha from Marie. There is a Jennie C. who calls Mrs. Sister on 10 May 1910 I'll look for one that has William's wife's name after 1912. There is a card to Martha and Will from Uncle Sam and Aunt Melinda. Another card TO Sam Greenamyre(c/o Charlie Piper) dated 29 Mar 1918 from Essie, Virgil E. and Bernice. I'll post this and look more. Most cards have not info on them. But now I know why I have them. Greenamyre was living with Piper and Piper was living with my Grandmother Idolia Meyers. 8/27/03 I think that you are correct about William and Ida being siblings, though I have no proof. There are a couple of postcards suggesting that Samuel Greenamyre who was married to Melinda "Linda", has a daughter named Ida. Other names I found are: Janet - Samuel's neice Edd G. - Samuel's brother E. J. Rummel - Samuel's nephew Floyd R. - Samuel's nephew Marie - William's neice Jennie C. - Martha's sister Maud M. Rummel - Samuel's neice Essie & Virgil (on one looks like Voigt) Cora - William or Martha's sister Rosa G.(who is married? to Bert) - Melinda's neice A.S.H. - William's cousin Caroline S. - Sam's sister(Last name looks like Stoue/Storie/St Emma age 21 before 3 Feb 1912, Florence Greenamyre age 11 before 3 Feb 1912 Ben and Anna Greenamyre Lucy Rummel - Samuel's Sister Isaac Cline Sr. - Sam's brother Isaac Cline Jr. - Sam's nephew Ida and Essie are cousins Ida and Maud are cousins I think Martha's brother may have been F. Botsford Helen and Dell Botsford are somehow related 4 posts all together to Samuel from 1)"Your brother Martin" 2) "From Nephew Harley 3)"From Niece Janette 4)someone who may be named Anney? (hard to read) To Matha Greenamyre from Ed & Maud / A different post 23April1916 to Uncle Sam states Ed is in poor health. I also have an 1880 census entry for Alaiedon Twp., Ingham Co., MI listing Samuel Greenamyer, age 50 born in OH, his wife Malinda, age 48 born in VA, a daughter Idola Bell, age 11, born in IN, and a son, William H, age 10, born in IN. Myself, I think we've got a hit here with all the evidence. The only thing that puzzles me the reference in one of the postcards to Martha and Will that you transcribed referring to "Uncle Sam and Aunt Melinda". That one just doesn't fit in right. 9/3/03 Looking at the 1920 census for Delta Township, Eaton County, Michigan proves that Samuel Greenamyer is in fact Idolia B.'s father. It shows Charles A Piper, age 50, head, Idolia B. Piper, age 57(?), wife, and Samuel Greenamyer, age 87, father in law. I will also post this info on the Greenamyer/Greenamyre Gen Forum.