Please read my entry of 5/26/2006 concerning the above subject. My family also spelled the name GRINER until 1930's and they changed it back to GREINER. I am not yet capable of connecting the GRINER/GREINER families coming directly from Germany to America. The only ones I have available at this time is those going from Germany to France and then to America. The reason being is that those going into France were required to be Catholic and therefore the church records were available since about 1500. I would like so much to connect some of our lines from both countries. If there is anyone who is a GRINER and knows the family came from France, please contact me so that we can develop all lineages.This project is being developed by two large groups of Greiner descendents.