Thank you for the Lnc.Tnn site. I have since learned that my John Groce was son of Peter, who was son of Simon Groce of Surry Co.,NC.I See that one Elizabeth Ashby is living next to Cincinatia Groce in 1860. My John Groce died 1858.Their daughter Martha Groce married George Benton Tiller of Lincoln Co. I know that one other Ashby was married to G.Tiller's step-sister. Sorry that I can't help you with "Lavina"Groce.