Hi, I've been researching the Guynes/Goynes line for a while now. I'm hoping to find the parents of my Ellen Goynes who was born in Copiah Co. Miss in March 1820. She married William Womack there in 1836. Their marriage was witnessed by Jerimiah Sharplin. Also, in 1833, Jerimiah was married to Elizabeth Goins...don't know if there is a connection between Ellen and this Elizabeth or not, but it would surely seem likely.Sometimes probably during the very late 1840's Ellen and William moved to Jackson Parish, Louisiana. I'm wondering if their move had anything to do with the Choctaw removal and trying to avoid it, it seems that Ellen was not listed in the 1840 Copiah Co. census with her husband William Womack for some reason, I feel it has something to do with her Indian heritage perhaps. So far, all the Goynes listed in Copiah Co in the earlier years around the time Ellen was born in 1820 seem to have been accounted for and there's no mention of any daughter among these Goynes people by the name of Ellen. I've ruled out John Goynes as her father, simply because there seems to be no room for Ellen among the children of John and wife Matilda Hall Goynes, also no mention of Indian ancestors with that line. One thing I do know for sure about Ellen. She was of Indian descent, what kind I don't know, but in the 1870 census she listed both her parents as having been born in Georgia. I am hoping that you have further information on William Wiley Guynes. Do you think that there is a possibility that he may have been married once before he married Martha Brister? Was wife Martha of Indian heritage? There seems to be some name patterns with the children of Ellen. Here's a list of her children 1. Martha 2. Matilda A. 3. William Riley 4. Sarah Anne 5. Kitchan Adeline 6. Mildred 7. Elizabeth 8. Mary Ellen 9. Richard Harris 10. Louisa Josephine 11. James B. 12 Nancy Caroline (my gr grandmother) 13. Rankin B. In later records there is the name Wiley Womack. I've done a research on Matilda Womack child number 2 and she married William Foster, son of James Foster in Copiah Co. Miss. Matilda named her first son William D. Foster, 2nd son Daniel, 3rd Ephraim, 4th James. So, it's possible that I need to research the name Daniel Goynes, supposedly James did have a son named Daniel I think. Anyway, there does seem to be name patterns among these children and I'm hoping that it may lead to a connection to my Goynes ancestors.
Ellen's husband William Womack's parents names were Richard and Martha Womack. Martha's maiden name is so far unknown. It is my belief that my Ellen is connected in some way to the James Goynes who was the Rev War soldier and who was in Georgia prior to re-locating to Miss Territory. Just which one of his sons is Ellen's father I have yet to prove......or it may be that Ellen was James daughter for all I know. I have seen a posting of William Wiley's will and do no that there is no meniton of a daughter named Ellen. Do you have further information for your William Wiley Guynes, where he was located around the year 1820, and if you think it's possible that he had prior marriage to Martha? or do you think it's possible that Ellen may just be a child of William and Martha, especially given the fact of the Spanish laws during the time of marriage, etc in the Miss territory about the time that William Wiley was married to Martha. I have seen information posted that states that the Spanish did not allow marriages outside the Catholic faith at that time, etc. I know that the birthplace listed on the census records for people are only as accurate as the person's knowledge giving the information, so Ellen's suggestion that both her parents were born in Georgia indicates that obviously there would have been a marriage in Georgia. I'd love to hear from you or anyone who may have information that pertains to the Goynes people who were living in what came to be Copiah co in the year 1820. Or any of the earlier Goynes information for Georgia. Thanks very much for any help. Penny