Where are you, James? I'm in Riverside, CA... but I was born/raised in Utica NY and my dad was born in Clinton County. How do you trace to Francois? I come down through his son Joe (1697), Rene (1733), Joe (1766), Alexis (b. 1788, moved to Clinton County abt. 1838), Joe (1823), Gil (1856) and Rod (1890). My dad was 52 when I was born. Alexis, Joe, Gil and my dad were all bricklayers by trade. I was a newspaperman (now retired) who always wondered if I should have laid brick.